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		<title>Comment on I feel like P-Diddy Most Days by Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DEAD ON.</description>
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		<title>Comment on I feel like P-Diddy Most Days by Kevin Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... thanks for the PPC version Diddy, D-Storm...MR. D-Diddy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; thanks for the PPC version Diddy, D-Storm&#8230;MR. D-Diddy?</p>
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		<title>Comment on I feel like P-Diddy Most Days by D-Storm</title>
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		<dc:creator>D-Storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advertiser: &quot;Yo D, we need yo mad skillz to help us blow it up!&quot;
D-Diddy: &quot;Yo yo ish is jank! We need y&#039;all to get yo page tugethuh, get yo form togethuh, and bid mo&#039;!&quot;
Advertiser: &quot;Yea D, we not finna do that&quot;
D-Diddy: &quot;Nah son&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advertiser: &#8220;Yo D, we need yo mad skillz to help us blow it up!&#8221;<br />
D-Diddy: &#8220;Yo yo ish is jank! We need y&#8217;all to get yo page tugethuh, get yo form togethuh, and bid mo&#8217;!&#8221;<br />
Advertiser: &#8220;Yea D, we not finna do that&#8221;<br />
D-Diddy: &#8220;Nah son&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Google Map Listings &#8211; Guaranteed Placement Is A Scam by Pest Control Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pest Control Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own a pest control company in Davidson County TN. I hired a “spammer” without knowing better… I wanted to compete, and I got fantastic results for a while. I noticed all of my lising where being reviewed one day so I took the time to do some digging in to the company I hired. I found out everything they were doing was against Google Places TOC. Will see what happens now that I deleted all my “spam” listings. Pest control companies like U S Pest Protection are major scammers “spammers”, Armaxx Pest Control Services, Ace Exterminating, Arrow Exterminators, and even Orkin and Terminix are spamming Google Places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own a pest control company in Davidson County TN. I hired a “spammer” without knowing better… I wanted to compete, and I got fantastic results for a while. I noticed all of my lising where being reviewed one day so I took the time to do some digging in to the company I hired. I found out everything they were doing was against Google Places TOC. Will see what happens now that I deleted all my “spam” listings. Pest control companies like U S Pest Protection are major scammers “spammers”, Armaxx Pest Control Services, Ace Exterminating, Arrow Exterminators, and even Orkin and Terminix are spamming Google Places.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Google Map Listings &#8211; Guaranteed Placement Is A Scam by Bernie Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 01:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I see you&#039;re point. I&#039;ve created multiple map listings for my clients &amp; they&#039;re getting great results. I charge them $30 per month to maintain the map listings &amp; ensure this listing has good rankings &amp; also leaving fake reviews to boost the rankings. Whether you think this is a scam or not my customers would probably tell you to f off if you told them it was a scam. Some of them get 5-10 jobs per month for just $30. This to me is good advertising, I do not guarantee anything, I charge them once the listing appears on the 1st page &amp; they&#039;re more happy. This helps their website anyway because they&#039;re getting more hits from the listings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I see you&#8217;re point. I&#8217;ve created multiple map listings for my clients &amp; they&#8217;re getting great results. I charge them $30 per month to maintain the map listings &amp; ensure this listing has good rankings &amp; also leaving fake reviews to boost the rankings. Whether you think this is a scam or not my customers would probably tell you to f off if you told them it was a scam. Some of them get 5-10 jobs per month for just $30. This to me is good advertising, I do not guarantee anything, I charge them once the listing appears on the 1st page &amp; they&#8217;re more happy. This helps their website anyway because they&#8217;re getting more hits from the listings.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Google Map Listings &#8211; Guaranteed Placement Is A Scam by Kevin Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 14:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Yellow Pages is an even bigger scam - don&#039;t get me started :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Yellow Pages is an even bigger scam &#8211; don&#8217;t get me started <img src='http://kevin-pike.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Google Map Listings &#8211; Guaranteed Placement Is A Scam by Kevin Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 14:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment @ Bernie. If this was the impression you got, I glad you said something, because this is not the way it went down.

No client lost. Nothing cheaper than free - not trying to charge anything. 

My point is about the &lt;strong&gt;guaranteed &lt;/strong&gt;rankings, the&lt;strong&gt; on-going Map maintenance fee&lt;/strong&gt;, and the &lt;strong&gt;deceit &lt;/strong&gt;in which some companies are positioning Maps in order to sell their monthly service. The above post exemplifies bold lies. Read it again, and read the other comments and I think you will see what I mean. 

Personally, I don&#039;t make Google Maps out to be some big huge thing. Google sends out reports automatically, it takes a couple of minutes out of my life to set one up and verify it. I don&#039;t say Google Maps will get you more traffic than SEO. Finally, and perhaps my main point, I don&#039;t make ridiculous ranking guarantees.

If I was doing setups on an ad hoc basis, which it sounds like you are, I can see how $200 might be a fair &lt;strong&gt;one-time&lt;/strong&gt; price. Since I don&#039;t sell Maps listings as a separate thing, I&#039;m happy to do it for free if it gets my clients better numbers.  Again, typically no where near what SEO &amp; PPC can bring in, but nonetheless they are happy to see their company rank for geo-targeted terms. I don&#039;t think &quot;&lt;em&gt;a service is worth what someone is willing to pay for it&lt;/em&gt;&quot; - when it&#039;s built on lies.&lt;strong&gt; To me that&#039;s unethical.&lt;/strong&gt; 

I&#039;m still waiting for someone to outline for me a monthly Google Maps campaign and show me what deliverable&#039;s are being brought back to these clients. If you can tell us what you do for a fee, please share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment @ Bernie. If this was the impression you got, I glad you said something, because this is not the way it went down.</p>
<p>No client lost. Nothing cheaper than free &#8211; not trying to charge anything. </p>
<p>My point is about the <strong>guaranteed </strong>rankings, the<strong> on-going Map maintenance fee</strong>, and the <strong>deceit </strong>in which some companies are positioning Maps in order to sell their monthly service. The above post exemplifies bold lies. Read it again, and read the other comments and I think you will see what I mean. </p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t make Google Maps out to be some big huge thing. Google sends out reports automatically, it takes a couple of minutes out of my life to set one up and verify it. I don&#8217;t say Google Maps will get you more traffic than SEO. Finally, and perhaps my main point, I don&#8217;t make ridiculous ranking guarantees.</p>
<p>If I was doing setups on an ad hoc basis, which it sounds like you are, I can see how $200 might be a fair <strong>one-time</strong> price. Since I don&#8217;t sell Maps listings as a separate thing, I&#8217;m happy to do it for free if it gets my clients better numbers.  Again, typically no where near what SEO &#038; PPC can bring in, but nonetheless they are happy to see their company rank for geo-targeted terms. I don&#8217;t think &#8220;<em>a service is worth what someone is willing to pay for it</em>&#8221; &#8211; when it&#8217;s built on lies.<strong> To me that&#8217;s unethical.</strong> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still waiting for someone to outline for me a monthly Google Maps campaign and show me what deliverable&#8217;s are being brought back to these clients. If you can tell us what you do for a fee, please share.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Google Map Listings &#8211; Guaranteed Placement Is A Scam by Bernie Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok let me get this straight, you work for an SEO company &amp; because someone has offered one of your clients a cheaper alternative to get their website on the 1st page of Google you&#039;re saying they scam? I sell advertising in my business directory, I also sell SEO, Google Maps, Web Design &amp; pretty much everything. And let me tell you Google maps is no scam, just because someone can set it up within 10 minutes that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s a scam. Surely charging $169 per month is rediculous but then again if you can get someone 5 jobs per month &amp; they&#039;re paying $169 per month for 5 jobs that is great advertising in my opinion. I know companies that charge $1000 per month for SEO but I can get better results with another company for $200 per month, so does that mean the company charging $1000 per month are scammers? A service is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, what about all these people paying Yellow Pages $50,000 per year &amp; sometimes getting 5 jobs per year, I bet you they&#039;d rather have Google maps if they knew they could get more work from that for cheaper. Just because you lost a client or 2 that does not mean everyone selling Google maps to their clients are scammers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok let me get this straight, you work for an SEO company &amp; because someone has offered one of your clients a cheaper alternative to get their website on the 1st page of Google you&#8217;re saying they scam? I sell advertising in my business directory, I also sell SEO, Google Maps, Web Design &amp; pretty much everything. And let me tell you Google maps is no scam, just because someone can set it up within 10 minutes that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s a scam. Surely charging $169 per month is rediculous but then again if you can get someone 5 jobs per month &amp; they&#8217;re paying $169 per month for 5 jobs that is great advertising in my opinion. I know companies that charge $1000 per month for SEO but I can get better results with another company for $200 per month, so does that mean the company charging $1000 per month are scammers? A service is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, what about all these people paying Yellow Pages $50,000 per year &amp; sometimes getting 5 jobs per year, I bet you they&#8217;d rather have Google maps if they knew they could get more work from that for cheaper. Just because you lost a client or 2 that does not mean everyone selling Google maps to their clients are scammers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Google Map Listings &#8211; Guaranteed Placement Is A Scam by The Visible Dentist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Visible Dentist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, lots of bozos out there claiming to be experts and gurus because they read a blog or forum post; no experience needed; just create a website, make some claims and start calling the victims, er, the potential customers.

I hate to admit it, but right now we&#039;re so swamped with projects and clients, I wish there was a way to prevent so many new customers from calling and requesting help. Seems as soon as I get a dozen projects out the door, twice as many more arrive.

We build, manage and promote websites with SEO and today I can refer clients to a responsible, qualified person for Google Places too. The only thing they guarantee is that you&#039;ll be happy with the results.

I was going to offer Google Places optimization myself, however, after determining the avalanche of work and time involved (plus the problematic Google local algo), I decided not to. It took me at least half a year to find someone honest, competent and cost effective.

John Barremore
Houston, TX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, lots of bozos out there claiming to be experts and gurus because they read a blog or forum post; no experience needed; just create a website, make some claims and start calling the victims, er, the potential customers.</p>
<p>I hate to admit it, but right now we&#8217;re so swamped with projects and clients, I wish there was a way to prevent so many new customers from calling and requesting help. Seems as soon as I get a dozen projects out the door, twice as many more arrive.</p>
<p>We build, manage and promote websites with SEO and today I can refer clients to a responsible, qualified person for Google Places too. The only thing they guarantee is that you&#8217;ll be happy with the results.</p>
<p>I was going to offer Google Places optimization myself, however, after determining the avalanche of work and time involved (plus the problematic Google local algo), I decided not to. It took me at least half a year to find someone honest, competent and cost effective.</p>
<p>John Barremore<br />
Houston, TX</p>
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		<title>Comment on Google Map Listings &#8211; Guaranteed Placement Is A Scam by Porch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Porch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW Google maps looks really easy just like porch repair. Don&#039;t be scared to get porch repair. Everyone looks at your porch and if you have a crappy porch they might think your crappy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW Google maps looks really easy just like porch repair. Don&#8217;t be scared to get porch repair. Everyone looks at your porch and if you have a crappy porch they might think your crappy.</p>
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